"Volk used to be a fat guy. Like, a big boy, Brawley, played rugby. You develop a different muscle density when you walk around with that body mass for years. Even with Volk, I've tried to hold him down. I'm not the greatest wrestler, but it's hard, even with my frame and leverage. He finds his way back up. [He's] a crafty veteran. His inside leg kick, his jabs, his hand control; all that sh*t, he's crafty."